Based on the imagery that Tolkien uses to describe the forest, what sort of creatures do you think live there? Based on the imagery that Tolkien uses to describe the forest, I think that trolls and other vicious things like goblins live there. Who are the enemies of the elves?
The enemies of the elves are the dwarves. The importunate discovery is that there are special letters written in silver pen on the map which can only be read in moonlight, during the same moon phase that the were written in.
He goes on to explain a little about their history and what the message means. It is also the day when the last moon of autumn and the sun are in the sky together. You are commenting using your WordPress. You are commenting using your Google account. You are commenting using your Twitter account. You are commenting using your Facebook account. Notify me of new comments via email. Notify me of new posts via email. Skip to content The hobbit summary blog The Hobbit.
Elrond assumes an important role in explaining to Thorin and Gandalf the significance of the swords they took from the trolls' cave.
The swords have enormous power because they were used to kill Goblins, and they are associated with the dragon from whom the dwarves wish to reclaim their treasure. They are important enough to have names of their own, like the weapons belonging to legendary heroes Beowulf and Arthur.
Elrond's ability to read runes also allows him to interpret the map that Thorin has inherited from his grandfather. Elrond's translation of the map provides an important foreshadowing of the dramatic discovery of the secret door in Smaug's mountain lair, much later in the novel.
Previous Chapter 2. And if they do, they probably go to Minas Tirith or Laketown. If they're driven out by war, they don't have to go far to find empty lands in which to settle. The only indication I'm aware of that Rivendell's location is a secret is the following passage from The Hobbit :. One thing that stands out in all of the books and the movie, also is that "the poor" in Middle-earth do not seem to ever have the "sense of entitlement" that they should get paid for merely existing - except at the very end of Return Of The King - and it's a sentiment that is expressed by Sharky's Men and by some squinty eyed almost half-orcs at the Prancing Pony, earlier in the book.
Nowhere in the book is it mentioned that anyone begs for money - I think there's a few mentions of better off people helping poorer people - but the general notion is everyone pulls their weight. Look for example at the depiction of Samwise's father the Gaffer. The book says he ran the garden at Bag End until he got too old and was then setup in a small "efficiency hole" in Bagshot Row and then later New Row when Saruman had Bagshot Row dug out.
There does not seem to be any mention of the Gaffer working, other than raising a few vegetables in his own little bit of garden. Yet he is able to hold forth at the local inn and drink a few pints. The setup is almost identical to how older people in the village are handled in Downton Abbey. Later in the show when they are talking about raising the farms agricultural output they specifically state the need to build little efficiency cottages and move the farmers who are too old to work the farms to them.
That happens to Mr. Carson as well. Clearly this must have been rather common in England at least in the small villages and farming communities - as farmers got old and unable to work they would be moved off to efficiency cottages in the village and given a small pension, and would perhaps buy a bit of meat of fish with it on occasion to supplement gardening output and I think Tolkien certainly intended the same model in Hobbiton.
In Middle-earth, everyone worked, everyone was useful, from the old to the young, and those unfortunates who perhaps were victims of accidents or wars and were unable to work, were taken care of by their communities. Nobody is addicted to drugs, very few are mentally ill, and criminals existed as bandits in The Wild. The various jails and stockades were places to put young pups or others who might have gotten too drunk and rowdy at a party and torn up a garden, or stolen mushrooms, for a day or so to teach them not to do it again.
There's no mention of mass murderers for example and theft is rare. Nobody goes to the bathroom, the cities do not appear to have pressurized running water.
There are horses everywhere including running throughout the cities but no mention of horse piles in the street. Google up "The Horse-world of London By William John Gordon" a free ebook to see the realities of running a city dependent on draft animal labor. When mass migrations of people happen they bring huge amounts of "stuff" with them, and plunk down in a new area and setup shop as though nothing had happened.
Every bit of Middle-earth's depictions of daily life living is HIGHLY idealized and not consistent with behaviors of real people in the real world. Boromir wanders long forgotten roads and meets many people but did he have a huge purse stuffed with gold coins to pay his way or did he camp out everywhere, spending days to hunt down deer and gather wild vegetables for his diet?
So the answer to your question is - it's moot. There are no masses of poor refugees who would get a better deal moving away from their communities. Men in Middle-earth do not act like humans - in the real world with humans if you give them an empty area they have large families until that area is built up - in Middle-earth you have have thousands of acres of tillable land that was once tilled by men, remain empty for a thousand years after a war.
In the real world curiosity causes some men to seek out buried treasure, so the idea of a former city being abandoned stimulates floods of treasure-seekers to look for it, in Middle-earth when something as valuable and large as the Master Stone in Osgiliath is hidden and lost after a war, nobody seeks for it. Even after the War of the Ring is over, and Sauron is defeated, and it's safe to look into a Palantir, it does not seem to occur to the King to use his Palantir to seek out where the rest of them are and dig them back up - particularly to seek out the master stone in Osgiliath.
In fact, long after the war is over Osgiliath remains abandoned even though it is the optimal location for a capital city due to it's position on Anduin. Moria is also never discussed in the later Appendixes even though the killing of the Balrog and destruction of the Orcs would have open it up for treasure hunting.
Elves and Dwarves do not act like people, that is acceptable as they are other species. But Middle-earth men do not act like men. If humans in Middle-earth were told about a famous Elf city named Rivendell it would have no hold on them they simply wouldn't care.
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